Please stop talking to me

When you’re buying a house in SL, you don’t expect the end product to arrive like a shambled mess of prims that barely resembled the instore version. But that’s what happened here.

The in store version was fully furnished, and I can only assume that was to hide the myriad of errors. It was a special offer, a just for one day type deal, and as we usually steer clear of this store for being so incredibly overpriced for the product you get, we were excited to visit it to find a house actually worth the price. Hopefully.

So my friend bought the house, because the layout was perfect for her small family, and perfect for sharing a christmas together. She knew she’d have to retexture the inside because of the textures the builder used, but she didn’t mind so much.

When she rezzed it, she was horrified. Prims were off all over the place, including the whole rotation of the house in reference to the rez box. It needed to be manually adjusted prim by prim, which she found when she was trying to even get the roof to match up. Most of the walls had errors in the house, and when you’ve just paid four figures for a building, you don’t expect to have to spend two hours (and counting – she’s still fixing it as I type) effectively rebuilding it. Textures flickered or didn’t line up. Corners were off. And all this from someone with experience of building homes that she regularly charges 10-20k for? Hmm.

So, at my insistence, I convinced her to IM the creator. At the very least, to make her aware that her house had some problems, and she may want to deliver an updated and fixed version to the people who had bought it. It didn’t go so well.

[15:00] The Customer: Hi Paige, I bought the Cozy Caiden today, and while I was super excited about it. I have spent the last 2 hours fixing it before I can even move into it. Between prims not meeting to textures not being lined up, I am very unhappy with the purchase. I just wanted you to let know that it is so full of flaws incase these are things you were planning to fix and send out updated versions later.
[15:00] Paige Raven: excuse me
[15:00] Paige Raven: the house is set up
[15:00] Paige Raven: and is identical
[15:01] Paige Raven: I see no flaws that you are speaking of
[15:01] Paige Raven: and I never sell anything that isn’t as close to perfect as humanly possible
[15:03] The Customer: I’m not saying that the house is not great, I am just saying that when you see the house empty the flaws are more apparent.
[15:03] Paige Raven: well I disagree and I’m looking at it right now. There is nothing wrong with this house
[15:05] Paige Raven: And I built the house, so I did see it empty. It was check over very carefully, as all my homes are
[15:05] The Customer: Alright, but I would check the roof right above the kitchen on the side, it does not meet with the walls.
[15:07] The Customer: Textures were off and flickering, when rezzing the house out of the box, the box was at a perfect angle, yet the entire hous itself is at 0.950
[15:08] The Customer: I love the that house, I was just wanting to let you know in case you were going to fix it for everyone else that was buying it
[15:09] Paige Raven: i see the spot
[15:09] Paige Raven: but you are making it sound like the entire house is a mess
[15:09] Paige Raven: that is one small adjustment
[15:10] The Customer: The house was a bit of a mess, I have spent the past 2 hours fixing it
[15:11] The Customer: Fixing every prim that is off angle right out of the rez box is alot of work.
[15:11] Paige Raven: see
[15:11] Paige Raven: the house was a mess
[15:11] Paige Raven: no
[15:11] Paige Raven: I disagree
[15:11] Paige Raven: one mistake on the roof that is barely noticeable and easily fixed is not a mess
[15:12] The Customer: I rezzed the box at 270.00, picked up the box and every prim in the house is at 359.950, which has to be fixed prim by prim
[15:12] The Customer: That is alot of work
[15:13] Paige Raven: adjusting a roof piece?
[15:13] The Customer: No, all the walls are off
[15:13] Second Life: Paige Raven paid you L$1000.
[15:13] Paige Raven: there you go
[15:13] Paige Raven: no there aren’t
[15:13] Paige Raven: not please stop talking to me
[15:13] Paige Raven: now*
[15:13] Paige Raven: you are rude
[15:14] The Customer: Thank you for the refund, but no I wasn’t. Have a good day.
[15:14] Paige Raven: yes you were
[15:14] Paige Raven: muted

So there you have it. Yes, she did get a refund. But a refund just to shut her up, and no plans at all to fix the building for all the other people who buy it. Even though it’ll probably be 7k tomorrow.

How not to ask for customer service in SL

A designer selling a sweet Mommy & Family Follower product received a rather rude notecard. If you don’t know what a follower is, it is exactly as the name implies. A follower will allow you to have the person of your choice “follow” your avatar around in SL.

This is the notecard that she received from a customer after being on vacation for a few days:

Stepahnie, First off, where in the hell do you get off talking to your customers the way that you do? It’s only 99 fucking lindens which evidentially means a lot more to you than it does to me. Secondly, I could give give a fuck about your 1000 customers and the reviews that looks as if they were all written by the same person …YOU. Third of all, I have a HUGE following in SL due to what I do in RL and I’m going to let everyone know that you are not the person to purchase from because your’re damn ignorant ass fool that sell crappy ass broke down bullshit. I tried to be nice and give you the benefit of the doubt to be a decent person and do right by me, but I see you can’t comprehend that. My computer crappy? I think not. I told your simple no spelling trailer park ass that I logged him on myself and I don’t have a lag issue nor does the sim that I live on.  I never came at you wrong, even after the first time that you blatantly  sent me a sarcastic ass response to my first message. You need to learn how to talk to people if you’re going to be in business dealing with PEOPLE who are spending RL MONEY with your retarded ass. 99L is only 60 cents in rl so keep it boo and I hope it can pay your tier, rl rent or whatever your 3rd world country living ass choose to do with it.  Stupid bitch!

We have decided not to include this customer’s name, to spare her the embarrassment. GIRL, that is NOT how you ask for customer service.

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Is there something I’m missing here?

So, this encounter happened while I was offline, and seeing this forwarded to my email, I waited a while because… Really. I was already having a bad day, PMSing and everything, and there’s really no need to be so rude when you want customer service. After a while of ignoring it, though, I started to feel bad. I try to have good customer service when I possibly can, but it took a lot for me to not treat her the same way.

This person had purchased a tattoo pack. Plain and simple. It said it was a tattoo pack, and stated that the skins shown were not made by me. It even stated who the skins were made by. It even stated which skins they were by name! It even says it includes clothing layers as well as tattoo layers, and one could look into the inventory of the box before pressing the final purchase confirmation, to ensure that it includes what it says it does.

(All names are changed)

MorningFlower Sapphire: (Saved Fri Mar 25 13:08:15 2011) growls: hay… not everyone is on viewer 2… the stuff in your shop won’t work for my viewer 1… PUT UP A SIGN THAT SAYS VIEWER 2 ONLY PRODUCTS!!!!!

So I thought… oooookaaaaaay…. As a Phoenix viewer user who also occasionally vacations to Imprudence, and sometimes Ascent, I’m fully aware that not everyone uses viewer 2! Besides, if I put up a sign that said my things were “Viewer 2 only” then that would be a lie.

MorningFlower Sapphire: (Saved Fri Mar 25 13:10:27 2011) YEAH RIGHT… l$300 OUT THE WINDOW… THANKS A LOT
MorningFlower Sapphire: (Saved Fri Mar 25 13:11:29 2011) oh sorry… 370… good thing I didn’t buy the 1200 skin
MorningFlower Sapphire: (Saved Fri Mar 25 13:14:58 2011) oh shit! I can’t even give it to a friend… that sucks!!! arrrr THIS IS PISSING ME OFF

Maple Bacon: Mkay. First off, I do not use viewer 2. I use either phoenix, or imprudence. Ascent and dolphin also support many viewer 2 features. Secondly, you did not purchase a skin, it does not state that it is a skin. Thirdly, it comes with clothing layers, which do work on all viewers, otherwise, you would not have clothing to wear. You wear the undershirt/underpants/whatever underneath your clothing (if you wear any). The package even says “Clothing layers + tattoo layer” and tattoo layers do not work on viewer 1, but clothing does. Also, there is no 1200 skin, that is a fatpack of 25 skins (4 skintones, 5 makeup options each)

MorningFlower Sapphire: (Saved Fri Mar 25 15:24:10 2011) I see… and I rest my case… the way you show your goods is confusing at best and misleading at worst… I thought I was buying a doll skin, not clothing… and fyi… when I try to wear any of it, it says I need viewer 2
MorningFlower Sapphire: (Saved Fri Mar 25 15:27:03 2011) know what? I’m in your shop looking at the product I bought (picture sent) NOWHERE on this ad does it say ANYTHING about the contents being CLOTHING! NO… IN FACT… it says: Skins: Mascarad: Adonis (Ghost); Cherry Girl:27C (Anger),,, JOINTS ARE (MB)! SKINS ARE NOT…e

Quoting an article that merely repeats what I had said previously, while trying to argue? And how does it say nothing about being clothing, when the product name specifically says “TATTOO + CLOTHING LAYERS”? And specifically says, right where s/he quoted, that it is not a skin? I even added where to get the skins (because they’re good skins and I believe the creators deserve more traffic and sales!)

MorningFlower Sapphire: (Saved Fri Mar 25 15:34:04 2011) I wanted a skin to wear under my clothing… not clothing that looks like skin that I parade my nakedness in, and I cannot wear anyplace except an adult sim… give me a break, and quit treating me like I’m stupid… I didn’t spend that L10 to show you your own pic… I did so to show it to Linden Lab if you continue to claim your advertise clothing

I may have been a bit blunt in my response but I don’t really think I inferred that s/he was stupid.. Maybe the fact that I was thinking it while I was typing may have crossed over, somehow. Anyways, after all of this, I really thought I was being trolled! I mean, maybe it would be understandable if this person made their account before tattoo layers were introduced, but no! This person’s account was made only a year after my own, surely they must have known that before the special tattoo layer was implimented, we all used transperent clothing layers underneath of our clothes to get this effect! I really honestly… Thought I was being trolled!

Maple Bacon: Are you…. Are you seriously trolling me? You bought “(MB)! Doll Joint -Clothing- + Tattoo Layers” And it says that the skins are not by me, it says who the skins are by, and says that the joints are what’s made by me. And are you trying to say that you can’t wear an undershirt underneath a shirt or a jacket? And that you can’t wear underpants under your pants layer? This is how tattoos worked before tattoo layers were introduced, you wore them on transperent clothing layers underneath your clothes. I keep that option in there for people who cannot use tattoo layers, but include tattoo layers for those who prefer them because they’re more convenient. And the clothing does not replicate skin, it puts the lines on your elbows, knees, hips, neck, wrists, fingers etc etc so on and so forth. There is nothing skin-like about it, and does not require nakedness.

So maybe my last response was a little rude, but I seriously thought I was getting trolled, and really did not want to have to log in again (I logged out after each response; I had other things to take care of.). I could not fathom how someone could be so confused. S/he doesn’t seem like ESL, so I’ll just chalk it up to unwillingness to read things carefully.

I muted this person quickly after this, because I really got tired of explaining this. I had basically said the same thing twice, but the second time I was more specific, since s/he didn’t understand the first time.

But, also…. It left me wondering… Why are there still a few people on the old SL viewer? It’s no longer supported, does not receive new features (and has some problems seeing some new features), so why? I can understand not wanting to use SL2.0 because it’s ugly and clumsy and just bleh, but to not use a well-supported and updated third party viewer? Is there something I’m missing here?

Upgrade U

A customer contacted me one morning, because she purchased some makeup from my store but couldn’t wear it.  I got online that afternoon and had a discussion with her, and found out she was using the Snowglobe client.  For her, tattoo makeup didn’t work, and she wanted a refund.

First of all, I can’t refund items that are non-transferable.  And if you’re using an older client (a client no longer being produced!), refuse to upgrade, purchase tattoo makeup and then want a refund because you can’t wear it, I’m not going to oblige you.  If it were still the early days of 2.0, I would have refunded the woman’s money without question.  But since there are so many clients now that support tattoos, this isn’t the case anymore.

When SL 2.0 first debuted, I knew it would take a while for other clients to adapt its code.  That wasn’t the main audience I was catering to when I first created makeup, and I was fine paying my store parcel out of pocket until more people updated their viewers.  For me, it was fun to play with something new, and answer the call for more avatar customization.  At the same time, it’s a new platform for creation;  I like helping to further makeup to where, all brands considered, there’s a common standard between all of us.

An example of ‘standard’ is the need to texture all eyeshadows you sell, not just simply apply a photoshop brush over the eye area and think people will wear it.  That’s called “dead color”.  Even matte eyeshadow has a little shine in real life.  Another standard would be lipstick sizes, since skin creations all feature different lip shapes.  And did you know the size of a person’s eyes can determine how an eyeshadow tattoo will look on them?  It matters as much as lip size does.

My exchange with the customer left me wondering how many people had yet to upgrade to a 2.0-compatible viewer.  I sampled a popular freebie group and asked their opinion, and found some people were concerned they would need new computers in order to do so, or new graphics cards.  Upgrading a computer can be expensive; I had to do this a year ago because my computer of ten years finally died on me, and I definitely dreaded it.  But is the upgrade so you can view SL with ultra graphics settings?  Or low?  What settings are you using?  I don’t think you’d need a new computer for the latter.  Of course, there are always some exceptions out there, but I think those are few and far in between.

I’m no IT, but I do know one.  To make sure I knew what I was talking about, I snagged one on my friends list and asked him a few questions.  To protect his privacy, I’ve removed his name.  Please keep in mind this addresses using not specifically the official 2.0 viewer, but a viewer that is up to date and can use basic functions like tattoos and multiple clothing layers.

Q: In your opinion, what’s the most basic sort of computer someone needs to run a 2.0-compatible version of an SL viewer?

A: There really aren’t basic computers anymore, at least when it comes to running SL Intel Core i7 processors will handle just about anything, so what it really comes down to is RAM and Graphics processor. A good midline Nvidia card and at 4 GB (SL can’t use all of that, but it will allow your PC to do more simultaneously).

Q: What year did a computer have to be manufactured to run SL right out of the box?

A: Mimimum recommended requirments are only 1.5GHz processor, and 1 or more GB or RAM. The recommended gfx cards have all been available for at least several years.

Q: And that’s SL 2.0?

A: Yes. Keep in mind that those are minimal, but should still allow for full functionality.  When it comes right down to it, SL isn’t that advanced a system to require anything more.  I have a five year old laptop that  easily handles it.  The only upgrade I’ve performed on it in the past two years is maxing out the RAM at 4Gb.  Obviously the better the hardware, the better the result, but I honestly don’t see that they would be required to upgrade any hardware for a clothing layer.

Second Life isn’t the only social mmo that exists.  With the advent of games such as Blue Mars, I sympathize with LL’s need to update their graphics and keep attracting new customers.  I also believe in user-created content, as much of it as possible.  As a whole, we advance the game, its standards for clothing, makeup and everything else, one upload at a time.   It’s a collective consciousness sort of thing, similar to how art helps improve society.

If you’re able to upgrade and you just haven’t done so, give it a shot.   If you don’t like the official client, try some of the 2.0-compatible ones that might be better for your computer.  Just like with different brands of skins and makeup, we all have to find our perfect fit.  But we can’t improve this game unless everyone moves foward.  The old viewers are nice, but the new ones are even better.

And don’t buy tattoo makeup if you’re using an old viewer.  I won’t refund you for it.

Endra Graves, who the hell do you think you are?

This reader submission is hilarious, shocking, and possibly the worst behavior displayed by any store owner I’ve ever seen.

[2010/06/16 20:50]  Lani [name removed]: hi, do you have ay satellite stores?  For some reason, SL is saying your sim is an invalid parcel.
[2010/06/16 20:53]  Endra Graves: Evening Lani
[2010/06/16 20:54]  Endra Graves: I added you to the ban list till we had the opportunity to have a chat
[2010/06/16 20:54]  Endra Graves: Sorry for the confusion
[2010/06/16 20:54]  Lani [name removed]: Why would I be on a ban list?
[2010/06/16 20:54]  Endra Graves: Blogger
[2010/06/16 20:54] Lani [name removed]: I’m not a blogger.
[2010/06/16 20:54]  Endra Graves: Ive had some nasty run ins with bloggers, so wanted to talk to you
[2010/06/16 20:54] Endra Graves:
http://[removed].wordpress.com/
[2010/06/16 20:54]  Endra Graves: is on your profile
[2010/06/16 20:55]  Lani [name removed]: yes.  I own a store.  That is my store blog.
[2010/06/16 20:55]  Endra Graves: well then, we should be fine.
[2010/06/16 20:56]  Lani [name removed]: Right then.
[2010/06/16 20:56]  Lani [name removed]: have a good one.

After reading Lani’s email, I looked for Endra Graves in-world and saw this little gem in her profile picks:

Endra Graves

LOL!

She gives off a warm friendly vibe, doesn’t she?

Endra Graves

Note the “not interested in being blogged” part. She must have received a bad review somewhere, ohhh!

Endra Graves

“No other jewelry will ever look the same again.” Such a big claim, I had to go see for myself.

I couldn’t teleport to her main store parcel, so I tried the satellite store at Les Champs Elysees. Immediately upon arriving, I received this notecard:

Welcome to Artistry, PLEASE READ

Some things you need to know/understand about shopping here.

Child Avatars are ejected/banned on sight. No further notice will be given other than this notecard before ejection. This MATURE rated sim was chosen for this reason. Child avatars have no business being on a mature rated sim. There are many beautiful PG rated sims that will make you/them welcome.

This is a NO FLY sim. Please refrain from flying on the sim (fly has been turned OFF)

Please DO NOT tp your friends into the store. Hand them a landmark to tp in themselves. There is a forced landing point on the sim for a reason, AND we all want them to have their own LM so they can come back.

Appropriate attire is required. Artistry is an upscale jewelry store, catering to a high end clientelle. You WILL be asked to adjust your attire if you arrive looking like you should either be shopping on Zindra, or involved in the sexual goings on there. Indecent exposure is not tolerated here, if you would be asked to leave an upscale shop IRL in what you’re wearing, you will not be permitted to shop here wearing it.

Standing unresponsive in the store or BEING unresponsive in the store is not tolerated. This is how copybots/design theives behave. You WILL be ejected. Also, if you need to be AFK for more than 2 minutes for any reason, please tp out first.

When you land, MOVE FORWARD off of both the greeter and the landing point- rezzed or not- MOVE.

You are held accountable for knowing the behavior expected of you in this location. Your failure to read or abide by the guidelines in this notecard, or those on the sim covenant itself is simply “not my problem” I WILL enforce the above. For those who would say I have no right to tell you what you can or can-not do on MY sim, I will happily take YOUR notecard and abide by YOUR rules should I ever choose to venture onto YOUR property.

~Endra~
Artistry by ~ E ~

I bolded some LOL-worthy parts but the entire note is laughable.

And if you’ve made it this far, here is the goodies that you won’t be missing by not shopping at Artistry by E.

Endra Graves

Endra Graves

I know you don’t want to be blogged, Miss Endra Graves, but please consider this a public service to all residents in Second Life to avoid your store like the plague, just in case they’re not good enough to shop at your store. Or they own a blog. Or they stand still too long. Or they simply cannot follow one of your many rules.

Lessons in Customer Service by RUTHED

Welcome all to SL’s official *cough* Center for Virtual Business Customer Service Training.

Today we are going to review what NOT to do when dealing with customers during a sticky situation that we all have experienced: SoM failures and SoM re-deliveries.  We are going to give a wonderful example of customer service *FAIL* as provided by one of our beloved readers here at RUTHED and then finish with some ideas on what the designer could have done instead.

Today’s example includes a wonderful CS *FAIL* courtesy of the lovely and talented Katey Coppola of Glitterati.

Ah Katey, she is quite the darling of plurk and such an example of the new generation of overly emo, bitchy, pretentious designers that seem to be overtaking the fashion scene in SL.  She really was spot on emo in this situation as well.

Here is what our lovely reader provided us:

Hi Ruth,

let me first say that i LOVE your blog!

My Story :)

My friend, a Blogger, is in the Glitterati Group, she received a NC and 1 Giftcard, which is totally generous of the Glitterati owner. After reading the NC my friend noticed that there are supposed to be 2 giftcards in the package. So she IMed Katey Coppola (Glitterati Owner) to ask if there is a mistake in the NC…

Here is the NC text:
“Hello! :D

The idea is…
One for you, and one for your friend!

But if you keep both, I won’t judge you :P

Please note the following limitations on store card use…

- Store cards can not be redelivered from the subscriber terminal, or manually because of IM capping. I’m nice, not stupid, haha.

- Store cards cannot be used on collaboration products (Mudhoney items, CLICK items, Diamond room, pearls)

- Store cards cannot be used on single poses. This is due to the scripts in the pose stands. My apologies!

Please pass your friend this notecard also :D
<3 Katey

So as I understand… there are supposed to be 2 giftcards… this is my friends log:

[2010/06/02 2:23]  You: Hello Katey! Thank you so much for the StoreCard! I read the note and there says there are 2 gift cards, but in my pack I received there is just one. Is this right, or is the NC false? Thank you for your time. :)
[2010/06/02 2:23]  Katey Coppola: i was redelivering one, because one in the first box was broken
[2010/06/02 2:23]  Katey Coppola: i really wish people would stop trying to squeeze more free stuff out of me, it’s getting exhausting
[2010/06/02 2:25]  You: uhm.. I dont get why you send gift cards then. I’m sorry if I have bothered you with my stupid question. thanks
[2010/06/02 2:25]  Katey Coppola: i send them because i’m generous, but please understand i’ve had over 600 people IM me or NC me trying to get MORE of it
[2010/06/02 2:27]  You: listen, in your NC you right there are 2 Giftcards. one for me and one for my friend. now you cant give me the fault that this system you have there is not working.
[2010/06/02 2:28]  Katey Coppola: lmao. did you read what  i said? i was redelivering a giftcard from the first sendout, where one didn’t work
[2010/06/02 2:28]  Katey Coppola: jesus. you got a free giftcard out of me
[2010/06/02 2:28]  You: bye
[2010/06/02 2:28]  Katey Coppola: can’t you understand how totally fucking exhausted i am by people trying to get MORE

My friend didn’t get the first delivery (group gift) AT ALL! So the owner should have inform in her group that THIS IS A RE-DELIVERY cause the first one wasn’t working. I don’t see the reason to get so rude to someone who shops in your store and blogs about u (free advertisement). She insulted my friend and accused her of begging for MORE when she only wanted to know why it says 2 in the NC and she only received 1.

Katey, Katey, Katey – this really was a customer service *FAIL* if ever I have seen one.  We understand you are tired at times but that’s not our problem particularly when it’s your SoM that screwed up!  You already knew that some people didn’t get the first delivery so why expect the worst?  If you’re that stressed out and tired, maybe logging out would have been a better solution vs dealing with the IM’s.  Here is an idea of  what may have been a more positive customer experience for both the blogger and for Katey:

[ the chat below is an example of customer service *WIN*, and not what was actually said]

[2010/06/02 2:23]  You: Hello Katey! Thank you so much for the StoreCard! I read the note and there says there are 2 gift cards, but in my pack I received there is just one. Is this right, or is the NC false? Thank you for your time. :)
[2010/06/02 2:23]  Katey Coppola: i was redelivering one, because one in the first box was broken
[2010/06/02 2:23]  Katey Coppola: i can understand though how the second note may have been confusing.  so here is a giftcard for you to use and thanks for being a customer.
[2010/06/02 2:25]  You: Oh wow thanks so much Katey and have a great day!

Well that’s it for today students.  But be sure and come back next week in which our customer service topic will be “how to handle a bad review with grace and dignity”.  Cheers!

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